A summary of 9/11 weirdness
In light of September 11th, I decided to write down some of the things regarding the whole incident six years ago that I find most strange. I will try to keep this as factual and brief as possible, and try to provide links to more information and pictures. I would welcome explanations based on facts to these questions. I dont know if anyone can give me them, but we need to start thinking for ourselves here because letting someone else do a bad job of that for us doesn’t seem to give us any answers, there are lots of victims that would want us to find out what really happened. To me there are just too many question marks in the official story. I’m just a normal person trying to use normal reasoning to solve this, and these are the things I have found strange. Not in any particular order though.
The Towers:
Plane Impact Flashes
Both plane impacts show bright flashes just as the planes hit the building, they can be clearly seen on the videos. (except for one official video where it is apparently edited out when compared to the original live broadcast version). What are these extremely bright flashes? The only explanation I’ve seen so far is that it is kinetic energy from the planes getting converted into heat when contacting the steel frame at high velocity. Again, a real scale model test and thorough investigation could set this issue to rest.
Plane bulges underneath
Both planes seem to have a bulge underneath them, looking at the pictures they don’t look like ordinary 767’s. The flash from one plane is clearly in line with the bulge. Just to the right of the cockpit. Boeing is not discussing this, why not?
Some explanation theories here: http://911wideopen.com/pod-exam.htm
A video showing these issues can be seen here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ri7rZ6Bi6C8 The flash is clearly visible.
Plane model
The plane that struck the second tower was reported to be AAL 175 a Boeing 767-200. Image analysis of the length of the nose part compared to the wing part show it to be closer to the 767-300ER, used by the military. (the nose part is longer than the wing part, not shorter like the 200) Eye witnesses also state it had no windows, looked like a freight plane, or did not look like it belonged in this area.
More info and pictures here and here
Explosions
Firemen on site have reported explosions down in the basement and on other floors of the building, the planes crashed at around 80th floor give or take, and at least in one tower firemen reported to have “two isolated pockets of fire” that could be “taken out with two lines”. That does not seem to me like anything that would cause explosions 50 floors down in the sub-levels. Explosions in the sub-levels would be consistent with demolishing the center core of the towers, which would then drag down the whole building. Firemen have reported that the buildings collapsed from the inside, as stairwells in the center collapsed and fell far away from the floors of plane impact and fire. The towers were built like 3 separate skyscrapers on top of each other. A top core collapse doesn’t seem to me to be able to explain the bottom core collapse experienced by the firemen.
The windows in the lobby were blown out and a big explosion went off in the basement/elevator shaft about 5 minutes after the first plane hit the tower.
Hear fireman John Shroeder tell about what he experienced here: http://stage6.divx.com/Problem-Reaction-Solution/video/1606123/A-Sit-Down-With-An-9/11-Fire-FighterExcerpt: “You know the tower was, it was funny because tower one was coming down from the interior.”…”The inside structure was just disintegrated! We’re like, how’s this happening when the plane was up 50 more stories, and the stairwell is collapsing on us? Something wasn’t right man… Something wasn’t right in Denmark that day…”
A camera on the other side of the Hudson river registers lots of explosions and smoke from ground level a few minutes before, and as tower 2 fell, with a larger explosion just as the towers fell through the reinforced floors in the junction between the two separate pieces.
http://stage6.divx.com/911-InsideJob/video/1330487/9/11-Controlled-Demolition
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri9Uz1Wa-Xc
[Update Sept. 12 2007, The Math]
The math
The chance of all three buildings coming down due to fire:
According to Professor Steven E Jones, BYU department of physics, there have been around 400 fires in steel framed buldings like the WTC buildings, none of them have fallen due to fire, (that the 9/11 commission report claims is the reason why the Towers fell. ) So that is a 1 in 400 probability. That all three buildings would come down in this manner on the same place on the same day is about 1 in 400 * 1 in 400 * 1 in 400 or 1/400*1/400*1/400= 1/400*3 which is 1 in 64 000 00. A one in 64 million chance. And taking into account that they all would fall straight down, especially as WTC7 was not symmetrically built. (it had more columns on the left side)
The Core
What happened to the super-strong core? And why is it not even featured in the animation of the official pancake-collapse model?
This image shows a typical way to slice through steel columns with explosives in a controlled demolition, diagonally, and you see molten steel from the tremendous heat produced by the charges. -This image is from ground zero…
Pyroclastic Flows
The cauliflower shaped clouds that engulfed manhattan as the buildings came down are typical hot gas and debris clouds caused by very hot explosions, like a volcano erupting. Or demolitions.
The Black boxes
The black boxes of flight 175 and flight 11 were reportedly never found, this is very unusual in plane crashes. Yet it’s pretty unusual that planes crash into buildings. I think one of the alleged hijacker’s passport was however found, almost unscathed. Both recorders are designed to withstand enormous impact and heat. National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) officials said they should have withstood the conditions at the WTC.
The Cleanup
The area was very swiftly cleaned up, debris moved to Japan to be melted down, or used in landfills. This was before any investigation committee was able to secure any evidence to better explain what happened. Very unusual in a crime scene, which it was.
WTC 7:
The WTC 7 building was an about 40 stories high steel frame building housing FBI, CIA, IRS offices and records, as well as Mayor Juliani’s personal bunker. It was reported to having been weakened by a fire and collapsed 7 hours after the towers fell. The way it fell looked conspicuously like a controlled demolition, and was even reported by Larry Silverstein, the leaseholder of the WTC complex, as having to be “pulled” (Technical term for controlled demolition). According to controlled demolition specialists it would have been impossible to set up such a perfect controlled demolision in so little time. Officially the WTC7 was brought down by the fire. The 3rd steel framed reinforced building in history to fall due to fire. The first two were Towers 1 and 2.
more here
Brad posted this info link about WTC7. Thank you!
Pentagon
Altitude
The plane that crashed in to the Pentagon didn’t reset it’s altimeter from the standard setting used above 18.000 feet to the actual air pressure at that day. The released black box data shows this. This day that means that the plane was actually about 400ft OVER pentagon when the black box says it is at 0 feet.
Cameras
There were reportedly several cameras pointing at the place of impact, none of that footage has been released but a single parking lot camera,with an object obscuring the point of impact, and recently footage from a nearby hotel, footage first confiscated by FBI, in which no plane can be seen (One would think the pentagon would have high quality surveillance cameras installed covering the whole area) In the parking lot camera the object can be barely seen, traveling horizontally close to the ground, yet no plow-marks were found on the lawn, and the flight data shows a 5 degrees descent.
http://www.freedomunderground.org/memoryhole/pentagon.php
The impact hole
The engines and wings and tail left no marks on the walls at pentagon, it was just a round hole before it collapsed. The engines could not be found at all (two 6 ton steel constructions made to withstand tremendous heat) Almost no wreckage from the plane was found. It completely disintegrated.
The flight path on the released flight recorder is not in line with the flight path in the official story, and subsequent broken light poles. Commander Ralph Kolstad, U.S. Navy, one of the 90+ pilots officially questioning the official story has this to say:
“I have 6,000 hours of flight time in Boeing 757’s and 767’s and could not have flown it the way the flight path was described.”
-Commander Ralph Kolstad, U.S. Navy (ret) – Retired fighter pilot. Former Air Combat Instructor, U.S. Navy Fighter Weapons School (Topgun). 20-year Navy career. Aircraft flown: McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom, Douglas A-4 Skyhawk, and Grumman F-14 Tomcat. Retired commercial airline captain with 27 years experience. Aircraft flown: Boeing 727, 757 and 767, McDonnell Douglas MD-80, and Fokker F-100. 23,000+ total hours flown.
Press release here , Video documentary based on these facts here
And here is a slip of the tongue. “When the missile… PLANE hit the pentagon” for all those who believe in the Freudian slip.
Air defense
This area is one of, if not THE most strictly guarded airspace on the planet and a no fly-zone. Yet this plane according to the released flight recorder was able to make a full 360 degree turn within this area, rapidly dropping in height and then head straight into the pentagon without any defense systems or fighters shooting it down.
United 93
The plane that reportedly crashed in Shanksville PA. The flight recorder shows a flight path with about 5 degrees angle of attack. Still the impact crater is completely round, consistent with a 90 degree impact. (Something dropped out of the sky) No plow-marks here either. No bodies were found, and hardly any wreckage at all. The coroner left in 20 minutes because there were no bodies. Basically just a small round crater.
“Conclusion”
I have no real conclusion, but that these questions need answering. These are the things I could think of right out of the top of my head, and I’ll might update the post as I come to think of other things I think would be good to include. Maybe You agree, maybe you disagree. Anyway, If you’ve read this far I’m glad you did, and please don’t take my word for any of this. Find out the facts for yourselves and make an informed judgement based on facts you can find, and let’s try to answer these questions based on fact and reasoning.
I have found this http://911wideopen.com/ to be a good page that really tries to present questions and answers regarding 9/11. It seems independent and objective. Here is another article where the writer goes as far as saying the US government knew about 9/11 beforehand. Although the conclusion is perhaps not objective, it has a good summary of facts that seriously raises questions that need to be thoroughly answered by an independent investigation.
From patriotsquestion911.com:
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